Snowden: Ex-CIA Director Petraeus ‘shared far more classified info than I ever did’
By Snowden’s account, Petraeus – who shared top secret military information with his lover and biographer – should have gotten far less leniency, especially given that he was doing it for personal benefit.
Nonetheless, it is Snowden who is being pursued under the Espionage Act on multiple felonies, including violations of the Act and theft of government property – and forced to live out his life in exile in Moscow.
Petraeus, by contrast, never “spent a single day in jail,” Snowden told Katie Couric in an exclusive interview.
“We have a two-tiered system of justice in the United States, where people who are either well-connected to government, or they have access to an incredible amount of resources, get very light punishments, whereas people who’re from more vulnerable populations, they live in more precarious situations, they’re an inner-city youth, will be very much tread upon by our justice system.”
The interview in Moscow comes as the disgraced former CIA Director finds himself in the running for US President-elect Donald Trump’s cabinet as Secretary of State – making him the latest in a series of what many Americans consider to be disappointing cabinet picks.
Petraeus only got two years’ probation and a $100,000 fine, after pleading guilty to sharing the contents of a certain black book with his biographer and lover, Paula Bradwell. The book contained so-called “code words” documents, including vital information like the identities of CIA cover operatives and notes from National Security Council briefings.
Petraeus’ plea alleges that he retrieved the information from Bradwell three days after giving her the black book. Court documents indicate that Bradwell – who was never charged – did not use any information contained in it. Petraeus got away with a slap on the wrist, as he admitted to making “a false statement” to the FBI regarding the disclosure of the book to Bradwell.
Snowden pointed to how Petraeus did not even fit the bill when it came to exceptions made to the Espionage Act, which afford a certain degree of leniency. In rare cases, he said, “the government goes, ‘This person was acting in good faith. They were trying to do right by the American people. But they did break the law.’ No charges are ever brought, or they’re brought very minimally.”
According to Snowden, Petraeus “shared information that was far more highly classified than I ever did with journalists. And he shared this information not with the public for their benefit, but with his biographer and lover for personal benefit — conversations that had information, detailed information, about military special-access programs, that’s classified above top secret, conversations with the president and so on.”
But the case resulted in misdemeanor charges. “He never spent a single day in jail, despite the type of classified information he exposed.”
The whistleblower did not stop at Petraeus when discussing the failings of the US justice system. Another name that came up was Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who in March 2013 appeared before Congress and gave false testimony regarding the NSA’s surveillance activities.
“When we had the most senior intelligence official in the United States, Gen. James Clapper, who lied to the American people and all of Congress on camera, under oath, in the Senate, in a famous exchange with Ron Wyden, he wasn’t even charged,” Snowden went on. “But giving false testimony to Congress under oath, as he did, is a felony. It’s typically punished by three to five years in prison.”
Clapper told lawmakers that the NSA does not “wittingly” collect and store data pertaining to US citizens, when asked by Senator Wyden of Oregon. He later claimed the testimony was a mistake, and even complained 18 months later: “It has been very disappointing to have my integrity questioned because of a mistake.”
He was later quoted by The Intercept’s Dan Froomkin: “While we’ve made mistakes, to be clear, the [intelligence community] never willfully violated the law.”
Clapper was never indicted for what was very clearly perjury.
Snowden has all the while maintained that he would be willing to face a just and open trial if given the opportunity – but no such provision exists under the Espionage Act.
US President Barack Obama was recently sent a letter by former members of the Church Committee, which carried out a congressional inquiry into the CIA’s illegal activities during the 1960s and 70s. In it, they strongly argue for a pardon for Snowden.
“It was Snowden who supplied journalists with evidence that our government had, for many years, been collecting information about the domestic phone calls of millions of Americans,” and in so doing inspired a much-needed national debate.
It urges Obama and Lynch to negotiate “a fair and just settlement of the criminal charges against him, based on the public benefits that resulted from his disclosures.”