You are not a loan

It was the German philosopher and economist Karl Marx who said that "There must be something rotten at the very core of a social system which increases its wealth without diminishing its misery."

Today there is no doubt that our social core is not in great shape — but where did the rot set in?

So as so many of us now have to take on debt to survive, is it actually the case that in a rotten system the 1% always need an indebted 99% to fund their unearned lifestyles?

Host Ross Ashcroft is joined by author, social activist and analyst Andrew Ross to discuss the relationship between debt, humans, and how we chose to live as a society.

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