Lured to the precipice? Madhav Nalapat, director of geopolitics & international relations at Manipal University

Twenty years ago, at a press briefing about the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld uttered his famous quote about ‘known knowns’, ‘known unknowns’, and ‘unknown unknowns’. His point was essentially that free countries are morally justified in assuming the worst about their adversaries and acting accordingly. Is that logic still at play in NATO’s confrontation with Russia over Ukraine? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by Madhav Nalapat, director of geopolitics and international relations at Manipal University.