An old Soviet joke had it that the economy has to be economical, and, in the same vein, intelligence needs to be intelligent. The collapse of the Soviet system showed that it was short on both but, in retrospect, it may have been a worthy, albeit very expensive, historical lesson in statehood. As one nation after another implodes from within or collapses under outside pressure, can security services still offer security to the people they are set to protect? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by Rick Spence, Professor Emeritus of History at the University of Idaho.
