On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Colonel Mark Cancian, former land forces director at the US Office of the Secretary of Defense, and Senior Advisor of the International Security Program at CSIS. Afshin Rattansi challenges him on the Russia-NATO proxy war in Ukraine, citing issues such as Western arms supplies prolonging the war and damaging the prospect of negotiations. They discuss NATO officials’ admission that they are running out of weapons to supply Ukraine, as well as assertions by the US and Europe that the war was unprovoked.