On this episode of Going Underground we speak to the ghostwriter of Donald Trump’s best-selling book The Art of The Deal Tony Schwartz. He discusses how Donald Trump originally approached him to help him write an autobiography, how he gave the Art of the Deal idea to Donald Trump, the role of journalists and their uncritical reporting leading to the increase of Trump’s power, the Trump administration’s response to coronavirus and 200,000+ American deaths from Covid-19, why Trump views his own base as the biggest suckers and losers, how he came up with the phrase ‘truthful hyperbole’ and why Donald Trump loves it and more!