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Mole or troll? Greg Treverton, former chairman of the National Intelligence Council

Oleg Smolenkov – a high-flier in the Kremlin who personally heard Putin give orders to interfere in the 2016 US election, or a mid-ranking clerk fired before he had the chance to ever interact with the Russian president? The curious case of an alleged US spy in Moscow has once again highlighted the difference in assessments made by the US and Russian intelligence agencies. Could it be that he took both sides for a ride? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by Greg Treverton, former chairman of the National Intelligence Council and currently professor of the practice of international relations and spatial sciences at the University of Southern California. Treverton’s book ‘Truth to Power: A History of the U.S. National Intelligence Council’ was published in June 2019.

Mole or troll? Greg Treverton, former chairman of the National Intelligence Council
Worlds Apart is a fast-paced, in-depth discussion on the most pressing issues facing the world today.It strives to depart from the traditional Q&A form of interview in favor of a more emotive and engaging conversation. Host Oksana Boyko is not afraid to ask the hard questions that others avoid, with the aim of promoting intelligent public debate.