Secede to succeed? Ft. Brendan O'Leary, Professor of Political Science, Pennsylvania University

The Kurdish language has many proverbs to describe the people's national aspirations but the one that was frequently cited before last weekend's independence referendum was this: "better a calf of one's own than a jointly owned cow". How close have the Iraqi Kurds come to running their own ranch? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by Brendan O'Leary, Professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania.

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