This, too, shall pass. This Persian wisdom was among the most frequently quoted during the first wave of Covid-19 lockdowns and helped many of us deal with the isolation and deprivation of last spring. But as growing infection rates raise the prospect of yet more lockdowns spanning into the fall and perhaps taking over the winter holidays, is it possible to keep spirits up? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by Steven Taylor, professor and clinical psychologist at the University of British Columbia and author of ‘The Psychology of Pandemics: Preparing for the Next Global Outbreak of Infectious Disease’.