Bond market revolt might strike US in 2016, as it refuses to deal with debt crisis
“That $ 17 trillion everybody says its 107 percent of GDP,
that’s true. But who really cares about the percentage of GDP?
It’s the percentage of the debt as a percentage of the revenue –
its 700 percent of our revenue. Deficits are growing at 30
percent of our revenue every year added to the deficits we have
already. So it’s unsustainable. What is going to happen
eventually – a currency and bond market collapse,” he said.
RT: Those huge immediate financial loses aside for a
moment... how much extra damage do you think has been done to the
Michael Pento: We have about 17 trillion in total debt
right now and 126 trillion in unfunded liabilities and
entitlement programs. Instead of doing something to address our
entitlement programs, what we’ve done instead is enact a new
entitlement program called Obamacare - the affordable care
act, which is going to cost trillions of dollars. In fact the
White House says the latest assessment is 2.6 trillion dollars
over ten years added to the debt and deficits that are already
unsustainable. And if they say its 2.6 trillion you could pretty
much double it.
RT: Did anyone benefit from the shutdown?
MP: I don’t see any winners here. We had a chance. We
elected a small group of very conservative Tea party members to
the Congress. And they’ve been vilified as unabombers and
terrorists. That was the country’s best chance. I think there was
another gentlemen before me who was stating that the US cannot
afford to even pay its $17 trillion in debt. That $17 trillion
everybody says its 107 percent of GDP, that’s true. But who
really cares about the percentage of GDP? It’s the percentage of
the debt as a percentage of the revenue – its 700 percent of our
revenue. Deficits are growing at 30 percent of our revenue every
year added to the deficits we have already. So it’s
unsustainable. What is going to happen eventually – a currency
and bond market collapse! And it’s not going out 20 years, as I
also heard someone mention. In 2016 we’ll probably be spending 40
percent of all of our revenue just to service our debt. That is
what the interest payments will equal.
RT: When are the people in charge going to listen to
that, going to make the figures. They can’t make it, that’s the
problem isn’t it?
MP: Yes that is actually the problem. Usually here in the
US we react to a crisis, we don’t seem to proactively deal with
them in advance. So I think you are going to have a revolt in the
bond market and I don’t think it’s going to come from the Federal
Reserve. The Federal Reserve has a bounty of $ 4 trillion dollars
now, they are not going to sit there and drain $ 3 trillion, and
sell those assets, and drive the interest rates to the moon. I
think the free market is going to do that. It’s not going to do
that in the year 2023, it’s going to do that probably in 2016,
when it becomes so evident that we can’t even adequately service
our debt, forget about actually paying it down.
RT: So if you were putting a figure on when this
implosion will be, when is it going to come?
MP: Nobody has a crystal ball. Anybody who tells you they
know the exact day and time is lying to you. I’m looking at a
model and as I mentioned before 2016 is the time frame that I see
when we are going to be spending 40 percent of all of the revenue
just to service the debt. If so, your international creditors are
going to say “Gee, I might never get paid the 17 trillion that
I’m owed”. So interest rates start to rise, so its 7 percent
average interest rate on the 10-year note. We can go a lot higher
than that, we’ve been a lot higher before, we can go there again.
And that adds to the deficits dramatically. You quickly become a
self-fulfilling prophecy where you are spending a 100 percent of
interest payments just to service the debt. And then it’s a
mathematical fact that you are never going to get paid back the
principle of your debt. Then you have an inflationary collapse of
the bond market and it’s all over. That is the time we could deal
with the situation. Right now we have everything clearly laid out
for us. I’ve been saying that for years now. There are a lot of
members of Congress in DC who laid it out very clearly what we
have to do. We have to grow our deficits less than the increase
in nominal GDP to have any chance of ever being able to pay the
debt. It’s not happening. It will only happen through crisis.