Manning’s persecution could have 'counterproductive effect'
RT:Many say that Manning should be free,
however, he did plead guilty to ten of the charges, so how
realistic is this position?
Jeremie Zimmermann: It is the only realistic position, because what is happening to Bradley Manning is totally unrealistic. He has been telling the truth –he has been courageous to expose crimes and lies, and he is the one going to prison right now, so the only realistic option is that Bradley Manning will go free. The question is – when? Will it be President Obama or will we have to wait – should there be a public outcry all over the world before he goes free – are technical questions.
RT:In light of what’s happening – the letter that was written by MPs calling for Bradley Manning’s release - is it just a political gesture or is it likely to lead to something?
JZ: The situation is political by nature because beyond Bradley Manning it is also the beginning of the persecution of Edward Snowden. It is dozens of whistleblowers that are being persecuted by the US government so it is political. This is one of the most powerful governments in the world being afraid of its own citizens, being afraid of truth, being afraid of justice so it is a matter that concerns us all, so I understand that MEPs would like to make a political stance about it. The question of what effect it will have – we’ll see but it is by nature a very political issue.
RT:A recent poll found that most Americans – 52 percent – consider Manning to be a traitor – are you surprised by this position, or the lack of sympathy for him for the matter?
JZ: I’m not very surprised because the public opinion in the US is what it is and it is very local. If you count the people in the rest of the world you probably have 5 billion more people than the Americans and I’m sure the statistics would be the other way around, that a huge majority of citizens across the world would consider him a hero rather than a traitor. But, beyond this dichotomy, is more importantly, is an extremely courageous young man, a citizen. Somebody like you and me. And this is what we should learn from him and Edward Snowden. Sometimes by our access, we see crimes, we see wrongdoings, and we all have the power to push that button, to become a whistleblower, to help truth to come out. And this concerns the whole of the world, not just US public opinion.
RT:Given the verdict that we all heard yesterday, what sort of message in your opinion does it send to potential whistleblowers around the world – is it reassuring enough?
JZ: It’s hard to say for whistleblowers around the world, it might have a deterrent effect on whistleblowers in the US, but at the same time while Bradley Manning was being detained and tortured by the US, Edward Snowden was aware of it and was planning his own whistleblowing. What Snowden said was that if he is persecuted by the US government, then it will lead to the creation of stronger, better whistleblowers. So it might have a very counterproductive effect because this injustice is now shown to the whole world and I think people who are outraged about it will think about whistleblowing, will think about the power of information, and will think about what the courageous gestures of individuals can do to make the world a better place.