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Strasbourg court condemns deportation of ill 82-year-old woman from Finland
Published: 17 June, 2010, 12:03
Edited: 24 June, 2010, 12:15
TAGS: Conflict, Europe, Human rights, Immigration
The European Court of Human Rights has denied Finland’s right to deport an 82 year-old Russian woman on Wednesda. Nevertheless, Antonova's daughter decided to take her to Russia.
Finland will abide by the ruling, a spokesperson for the Finnish embassy in Russia told RIA Novosti on Thursday, adding that the ruling is temporary and that the final decision on the issue is not earlier than September 2010.
Irina Antonova, an elderly Russian woman, suffered a stroke and was taken to a hospital on June 15, the date she was meant to be deported. Backman, in turn, asked the Strasbourg Court to block the deportation.
The woman arrived at her daughter’s home in Finland on a tourist visa in February 2008 after suffering an earlier stroke.
When her visa expired, Finnish authorities demanded that she leave the country as under Finnish law, parents are not entitled to residence permit even if their children have it.
On June 22, Irina Antonova returned to Russia together with her daughter and son-in-law. The Russian ombudsman for the Leningrad Region met the woman at the border and accompanied her to the city of Vyborg, where she was put in a hospital for a health check and further treatment.
Antonova’s daughter Natalya said that she was forced to take her mother from a Finnish hospital because of endless calls from Finnish doctors who had been asking to take the patient away.
“They were passing her like a ball. I had no other choice. I cannot keep her at home with me, I cannot help her, for I am not a doctor,” the woman was quoted as saying by Russia’s Interfax news agency.
17.06.2010, 06:18
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Trying to twist black to white doesn't help you here. I think it's basically silly to argue about one word. But it's plain here that the wording used by RT is just trying to make the story read like the Strasbourg court had made it very very much wrong to deport the old lady. And as this clearly was not the case, as is seen from the court's decision: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_J6TAGK0E7r4/TBkI-LT0NyI/AAAAAAAABFg/DkVSiu37lGE/s1600/ecthr_antonova.jpg This is just bad and non-objective journalism. As you probably know most people read the headline and make their impression of the actual facts on that. Most won't bother to actually read the story that thoroughly to change their minds. That's why it should be important to keep facts straight starting from the headline. Altogether better question is why is the story of one grand mother so important that it's main news. This I think is the important question here. There can never be total objectivity and equality in court system. But it is important to remember that the rulings of the courts are more trustworthy and objective when the judges don't take emotional stand in the cases. Or make their rulings based on popular opinion caused often by people who shout the loudest. This will be hard on individuals sometimes but better for society in general. At least I prefer it this way.
The dictionary doesn't help you, even using your first definition 1 : to declare to be reprehensible, wrong, or So two thngs to note: a. They have declared the deportation wrong at this moment, it can be wrong because they need more time to consider the case, because the deportaion is without merit...... b. There is no use of irrevirsible,final .... basically indicating that things can change. So again I say RT is fully correct. The problem is that you are used to use the western style of the word, that is used for spin, whilst RT are just doing literal language. So it isn't worth debating. The only point that I make is that you can't wade into RT, because of a cultural difference in word useage. Regarding equality, well in truth, true equality never exists before the law in any jurisdiction. Better lawyers, get better results, better political position and connections get better results, relations with prosecutors and police get better results.... That is just the way it is an imperfect system, we can only try to make it as good as we can, by trying to make it as public as possible for people to see. Now actually once you have that transparency, it actiually allows you to be flexible and compassionate. Becuase on odd occasions, when you need deviate, to secure justice. people can see you have deviated, they can support or oppose. This is the beauty of having an open system of justice. This is how law evolves in a common law way, which makes the approach the most powerful in the world. The very publicity and openness built into such a system, prevents the one case turning into the thousands. Nothing is perfect so don't look for it. But a system that generally follows the letter, but has discretion, executed in a transparent, open visible manner is the best you can hope for. Rejoice in the strength of the system, not its occasional possible failing in being abused. The people will correct that! Your seems is your own!
So basically: - She wasn't too ill to be transported as the daughter transported her herself, contrary to her earlier statements. - She didn't want to take care of her, but wanted her to stay in Finnish hospital to be taken care by Finnish tax payers. But people are not kept in hospital in Finland if they don't need it. They are otherwise just taking space from someone else who really are in need of hospital care.