Russian fifth-generation fighter: high hopes
Published: 31 January, 2010, 07:30
Edited: 27 October, 2010, 11:41
Under secrecy, Russia's first fifth-generation PAK FA fighter jet has successfully completed a test flight. Its appearance has now been revealed by Sukhoi, the plane’s manufacturer, which released footage of the flight.
It's still too early to judge the usefulness this aircraft; however, Russia has a long history of producing weapons that are quite effective for the purpose for which they were designed. The challenge for Russia is to produce an aircraft who's usefulness will span a decade or more, since they can not keep up with an arms race where the US comes out with a new aircraft every five years or so.
Good news, Russia developed its jet just in appropriate time when the military aviation industry is in deep crisis in the USA. USA had to stop F22 production because of too many and too expensive faults in the plane. Because of faults the price of the jet became too high. Now USA have same kind of problems with F35. The plane has too many structural, mechanical and high-tech faults so, the price has risen too quickly and is now far too high and the plane far too expensive. Russia should take strong marketing measures and campaigns with T50 all over the world and even offer it economically to its border countries to such as my country Finland. In Finland we have bought military material and equipment traditionally both from west and east, but since the the right-wing conservative party has been in the government rule, Finland has bought armament only from west and mostly from USA. The party will Finland to join NATO even though the majority of the Finnish people is against it. Finland must renew its air defence aviation 2020-2025 so, it is a perfect opportunity for Russia to offer T50 for Finland and get our military relations closer as they were earlier. For sure there are political and military circles in Finland which would consider T50 purchase as a military and technical matter only and not as a political issue, which would be postitive for Russia, for T50 purchase and for Finland.
The US F-35 takes 30 mins to take care off after a flight and it can last for 20 years without replacing anything. oh and its over a billion
As a retired US NAVY Fighter Pilot (Cowboy) :), my ride was the Northup-Grumman F-14 Tomcat. Also known as the US NAVY's long-range fleet defender. I congratulate Sukhoi for the the successful maiden flight of there newest fighter. Sukhoi has a reputation of designing and building great aircraft, and I am sure this design will carry that reputation as well. I have flown the F-14 in combat in the Middle East, against drivers of Mig and Sukhoi fighter aircraft. In the hands of an experienced, disciplined, and well-trained pilot these aircraft can be formitable adversaries in combat. All I can say is this..... There are US NAVY Aircraft Carrier Pilots, and then all others.
Thomas, Typical American bragger.
I have read various opinions of various readers! However, I would like to state that USA was not the first country created or invented the stealth technology in fact that was the ex-USSR who did it. How? A Russian scientist in the 60s or early 70s invented the stealth technology but the Soviet leadership as usual did not want to be the first superpower. This technology was too expensive and the Russians said, the US does not have such thing so we are not supposed to carry on with this too expensive project and simply they kept it aside and secret. But, that Russian scientist somehow managed to defect to USA and disclose tit o the Americans. By the time when the US president running for the second round of presidential campaign, he mentioned and disclosed it that during his first term of administration as US president the US technology made great achievements particularly in creation of a plane that no radar system in the world can see it. The Russians already knew what technology he is talking about. The Russian would be the commander s and leaders not the wingmen. Sukhoi great job despite of lack of funds and collapse of the USSR delayed your invention. Sukhoi was the company to introduce the thrust vectoring engines to the world - good job; keep it up.
LOL, weapons trade is profitable. Besides russians aquired nuclear tech from americans and americans got theirs from germans. A lot goes through money and curroption.
nice job sukhoi for developed the pak-fa... i hope after this the russia cant start back the Mikoyan I-2000 program... for developed a new fifth generation fighter aircraft
looking at this plane land reveals alot of intelligence. The plane looks as if it is actually gliding onto the runway instead of sinking. Perhpas, making the belly effective as the wing assuridely establishes the aircraft as a bench mark in carrying bombs and payloads and perhaps two bunker busters. I think the age of hybrid fighter bombers are here and it looks that the Russians may have started a new trend!
My friends, India is equally responsible for the making of this fifth generation Plane. Go through some more detailed reports. In this report they have not mention about the role India is playing.
Always nice to see new Jet fighters for the pure love of flying.. As long as we don't end up having to fight each other, we can enjoy the supersonic love. :) -USA
May 31, 2010, 00:30, anil wrote > My friends, India is equally responsible for the making of this fifth generation Plane. Go through some more detailed reports. In this report they have not mention about the role India is playing. Anil, India just invested few billions $$ in this 5th generation project and at later stage Brazil also participated in contribution. entire engineering is done by Russians only. china also shown an interest to offered but Russian had refused it. Russians are far ahead in weapon and space technology than any countries. only the finance is heir problem as development of this 5th gen fighter plane took huge investment and as india had old association with Russia it is glad Russia collaborated with india during the project. But this fighter plan will not come to india so easily it will take much time. but onec it introduce to india ...there will be many hue and cry in neighborhood :)
Yeah, this is an interesting plane. However, in USA, both governmental and private sectors build planes for both civil and military. We tend to advance aeronautical technology in many areas; not just on a single new plane design. In the private sectors, many company's such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing and Northdrop Gruman focus on key parts of a plane's design. Propulsion, landing, stealth, armmuniton, etc; these are constantly improved every year.When the government wants to build a better plane, these company's compete for a contract. Therefore, they have to improve every aspect and features of the next generation of fighter planes. The newer planes may cost more, but on the other hand, US defense company's constantly create newer aeronautical technology every year in contracts, programs, experiments, projects, etc. A excellent product may be good for business, but it the company's workforce and advancement in technology that keeps business going.
This craft is a beautiful hoax, and everyone has somehow been tricked by it and the Russian leadership.Yes, it has a wonderful resemblance to the American F-22 raptor, for good reason. The Russian "Bear" Bomber and Antonov AN-225 resemble closely the American B-52 and C-5, respectivly. It's just how Russian Research and development works. The Sukhoi is lovely, yet it has no new radar, no new weaponry, no new avionics and is basically a shell. It's a publicity stunt, people!
Why are they building a fifth generation, when they can't even afford the third generation.
What's with all the pointlessly militant US-development defense below? Hahaha. Anyways, it looks pretty cool though I was taken back a bit by how similar it does look to the Raptor, though obviously somehow made more cost effective as the Raptor apparently would have been a lot more expensive. And just because it's cheaper to make doesn't necessarilly mean it's a worse product. Balancing cost of production with reliability is I imagine becoming a much more important goal than even before for high-money industries like aviation in the current economic climate. The time of developing super high-cost planes is kind of over for the time being.
yeah, uh "Comparing a Maserati to a Honda"...Let me tell you something...#1 you'd be VERY surprised when you saw what would happen if you stacked any Maserati up against an JDM Honda NSX Type-R. which brings me to my second point, the most incredible car I've ever ridden in, is my fathers "Weekend/Nice Day Car"...it's an Orange 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner (not a GTX, which, after the Roadrunner came out in 1968, being based on the Dodge Charger, the GTX, although there was a 1967 Plymouth GTX, there was NO ROADRUNNER until 1968...& after 1968, the GTX became the Upper Trim Package of the Plymouth Roadrunner. So where there was the Dodge Charger base & the Dodge Charger R/T; there was the Plymouth Roadrunner as Base performance Plymouth Satellite & the Higher Trim of the Roadrunner became the GTX so they really became the Plymouth Roadrunner GTX, & then other trims being the Dodge Charger Daytona which appeared in 1969, & then came the 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner Super Bird...) BUT, I'm getting WAY OFF TOPIC NOW...so Returning to my point...my dad's 1968 Plymouth Roadrunner is "Hemi Orange" with a Flat Black Hood that's got a cool Scoop sticking up from the center & then under the hood, it's got a 426 Hemi V8, with a Crane Cams Racing Cam, a Holley Dual Quads Tunnel Ram Intake Manifold, Two (2) Holley 850CFM Double Pumper Carburetors, to a 4.11 Posi Rear-End, Cragar S/S Wheels with 15"x10" Mickey Thompson Radial DOT Approved for Street tires, & let me tell you something as of right now, that car is over 42 years-old...with all technology that was readily available back in 1968...that car did a Wheel-Stand with my father driving it, my mom & myself ALL SITTING IN THE FRONT BENCH SEAT...That's Something I never heard of a Maserati, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lotus, McLeran, doing. WHICH BRINGS ME FINALLY....TO MY 3RD & FINAL POINT....I'm looking at that "new" russian made fighter jet & I'm thinking to myself "wow, I see an awful lot of similarities to the "SR-71 Blackbird"
Nice plane - but there are some problems with a comparison: First: the F-22 is deployed to the US Air Force already. And since the Maiden Flight and the finished air craft it still takes few years [F35 had also a couple years ago their maiden flight... still needs to undergo several years testing]. Yes - the US planes are expensive... and there were some faults - why? Because they had to develop and discover most of the technologies. These technologies [e.g. stealth or trust vectoring] are now easier available, easier to use [as well as cheaper] and proofed as fit for combat. The advantage of the Russians: it is cheaper as the US jets and it is available; the F-22 is only meant to be available for US troops. The state department assessed it to advanced, to be shared with any other country [even the strategic partners of the US like Japan]: small numbers [including cancelled orders of the US Air Force] = very high price. The F-35 suffered of several problems - first is, that there should be versions of a VTOL or STOL variant [Marines / Navy]. Second it suffered of cancellations of the partners, which results in a much higher price tag as originally planned. It will be electronically even more advanced as the F-22 [and hell more advanced as the T-50] - I guess it will be deployed very close to the finalization of the T-50. For the Russian fanboy cranks: The US developed stealth already with the A-12 / SR-71 and really went into it with the F-117. C'mon - the F-117 is already out of service, and the Russians just introduced their first real stealth aircraft [which by the way uses a lot of traces of American planes - especially the Raptor]. When it came before to these discussions, Russian fanboys always mentioned plasma-stealth - a fairytale technology, "created" by the Russians, to have any arguments against US stealth technology. Well at least plasma stealth is over- as now also the Russians are entering the reality of stealth...
their new tech is americas old tech, thats why its cheaper lol










The hopes are justified; one of the most refeshing aspects of our modern aviation business, both civil and military, is its focus and balance on marketing and excellence. What is emerging is a very world orientated busienss, one that can be a key element in Russia's foreign trade. Our cost base is competitive, our technological base is cutting edge. We developed this vehicle with 10 Billion dollars, a tremendous value for money excercise. This programme is entering trials, optimisation and serial production phases. It looks a steady platform to move forward into the future. We should be enabling many more programs across the board in the military and civil high technology arenas with a prerequisite that part of the programmes must have a world focus in terms of end product sales. Spending packages of 5 and 10 billion dollars on well defined areas, would be a well defined use of oil revenues, to secure sustainable business opportunities. We need the big projects, we need the projects that offer a barrier to entry to our competitors, everyone can do the small every day stuff, so spending money there can amount to noise, unless it is bottom up driven. It Doesn't mean we don't hve our own exclusive projects, it just means we develop a sustainable portfolio. Basically he MIRVS are ours. This looks to be a great product, let's make sure it is in our friends hands as soon as possible along with many other defensive systems that can keep our friends safe from the cowboys.