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Romanian diplomat busted spying in Moscow
Published: 16 August, 2010, 20:01
Edited: 23 August, 2010, 21:54
A Romanian diplomat has been reportedly caught red-handed in Moscow during an attempt to obtain secret defense information.
August 16, 2010, 21:02, PR101 wrote > Since Romania is now part of NATO axis, we can only guess who this man was really collecting military information for! Good for the Russia's security team to catch him red handed. Don't you realize this was a decoy operation for the REAL collecting that occurred by the one we can only guess?
"Since Romania is now part of NATO axis, we can only guess who this man was really collecting military information for!" With a salary of $6K, he could have been working for almost anyone! Is your use of the the term "NATO axis" a reference to the Axis powers of WWII?
JG Well, all the members of the axis in WWII are part of NATO now. Are they not? And NATO is an instrument of U.S corporate imperialism.
I think the hole scandal of spy thing is just a form to keep away Romania from September election in Moldovia....
PR101 : "Well, all the members of the axis in WWII are part of NATO now. Are they not? ....." No - Japan is not a member of NATO but was a key member of the WWII Axis. Several members of the WWII Axis later became members of the Warsaw Pact - does that link all the former Warsaw Pact members to the WWII Axis in the same way?
JG How many U.S bases are in Japan at this moment? Also, where are these former Warsaw countries now? Are they not part of U.S/NATO axis? Read the following link- nothing new there but still it is worth the read. Perhaps then you might appreciate the central of Axis to the formation of NATO and the CIA and the U.S global imperialism. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20636
August 18, 2010, 10:39, PR101 wrote "How many U.S bases are in Japan at this moment?" AFAIK, several but Japan is not part of NATO. "Also, where are these former Warsaw countries now? Are they not part of U.S/NATO axis? " Exactly, my point is that neither membership of NATO nor membership of the Warsaw Pact make any nation closer to to the Axis of WWII and it is childish to make such comparisons.
JG The term “Axis” has acquired specific meaning in reference to the WWII -It was an alliance based on aggressive militarism. Today’s NAT/US alliance is also predicated on militarism and aggression. Of course, there are differences between the Axis of WWII and today’s NATO/US Axis. Two similarities are all the nations on the WWII Axis coalition- with the exception of Finland- are engaged in global agenda based on aggression and militarism spearheaded by the U.S/NATO. Just like the WWII axis, current U.S/NATO axis is on predicated on corporate imperialism.
PR101: Just to correct two errors in your post: 1. Finland was not part of the Axis powers (and definately not part of any aggressive militarism like SU was for instance) in WW2 time. Finland fought it's own war against already 2nd aggression of SU within few years. 2. Nato is basically a defense union to protect Europian countries against the possible aggression of SU.
marko First and foremost I love Finland. I think today, it is perhaps the greatest country to live and work. Also Finland can serve as an example of how not repeat the mistakes of the WWII constellations in the Axes forces- but to say that Finland was not part of the Axes is not credible. Finland paid a high price of losing some of its territory to Russia after it capitulated at the end of WWII. So let us not go there. NATO today and in the past was never purely a defensive military union. NATO has been and still is an instrument of U.S imperialistic expansion. Perhaps this is the real reason Finland has never joined NATO. NATO has no reason to exist save as an instrument of U.S imperial corporate expansion. But as the U.S loses its global position to China, and the global south- Europe will be forced to deal with the world with dialogue rather than being subservient to U.S geopolitical imperatives.
PR101 Thanks for the compliments! :) Your view is not taking in account the realities of 1940s. Finland was attacked by SU 1939 and war ended in bitter peace. SU took about 10% Finnish land and 400000 Finns had to be evacueted from the areas. SU continued to harass us whole interium peace time and occupied Baltics and half of Poland, while Germany took most other nearby countries. Finland was surrounded by these two monsters and still ravished by SU with not enough fields to feed the people and no proper defense materials left. Viipuri the 2nd largest city was lost. Finland had basically 3 choises 1940/1: - Hope for the best, that SU and Germany wouldn't have a war. And if they did, didn't use Finnish area to fight it. This was fantasy. - Ally itself with SU against Germany. But how can you trust SU after Winter War? People would've never accepted that. Basically everyone was feeling that SU was probably worse option than Germans. Probability of SU staying on their side of border when Finns would be fighting Germans were also not high. And as Baltic countries showed, SU didn't leave after the war. - Make a deal with Germany to get weapons and food and possibility in the event of war get back lost land. Not that difficult choice and probably only possible for Finns. What happened was determined the day SU attacked in 1939. If they hadn't, things would've been different. Finns had their own military goals, they didn't work under German command. It's quite clear that they weren't "aggressive militarist" Axis power. Also Finland stayed democratical whole time with no nazi parties. Finns don't want to join in Nato because most of us were brainwashed between 1945-90 to believe (as Russians) that SU's weapons are peace weapons and Nato is imperialistic war machine. And this illogical idea is still burned in brains of many Russians and Finns. I hope the younger generations can get away from this and base their ideas of facts and not imaginary threats.
Since Romania is now part of NATO axis, we can only guess who this man was really collecting military information for! Good for the Russia's security team to catch him red handed.