Muslims rally for Sharia law in UK, prompting nationalist protests
Published: 21 June, 2010, 01:23
Edited: 19 October, 2010, 13:16
Muslim protestors gathered in London on Sunday calling for aspects of Sharia law to be introduced in Britain. The rally turned into chaos, sparking a counter-demonstration by English right-wing nationalists.
Just to make this clearer: only one group was chanting in favour of Shariah law in the UK, and that group numbered in the, what, dozen? (looking at the demo on Russia Today's newscast). The real demonstration was between Unite Against Fascism (which turned out 1000+ demonstrators and have no interest in Shariah law - check their website) who were indeed there to oppose the EDL. The Shariah demonstration is a novelty ideshow, a group of radicals enjoying their freedom to protest and provide us with entertainment.
Sharia means the laws, and not “the Sharia laws” Sharia is a broad term: it pertains to everything thing on how a Muslim live his/her life. Most of these laws are living embodiments of Muslims wherever they are. Thus, we need to distinguish these laws from set of narrowly interpreted laws promoted by extremists. These extremists are not different from the Born again Christianity or and other radical fanatics. As for the attempt to conflate few radical Muslims in London with the regime in Iran [i.e. tacit reference to the heroic death of the Iran green female revolutionary that was killed last year in Iran], I think the reporter of this piece may wish to ask how it is the British/Western says next to nothing about the graphic murder of Dr. Marwa Al-Shebini, 32 years Egyptian pharmacist and a mother of four, who was stabbed 18 times in Dresden , Germany court by a Russian born German citizen just around the time the young Iranian became heroine of the West? I mentioned the case of Marawa Al Sherbini because she was killed just about the time of Neda AghaSoltan's killing in Iran. The western media doublespeak of their suppression of the murder of Marwa Al-Shebini inside court room full of people [secular sharia court] in Dresden, German courtroon, that nobody came to her aide safe her husband, who was in turned stabbed repeatedly, is silent hidden crime that justifies the false outrage of western media of the cruel murder of Neda Agha Soltan. RT needs to guard against the Anglo American Orientalist framing of the Arab and the Muslim.
Sam, I absolutely agree with you that if you have managed your country well and were fortunate to have a unified homogenous culture then you can do what you say. The problem is that once you open the floodgates, and let in others who have different cultures..... and they become a critical mass and part of your electorate, then you are stuffed by the very democratic principles that you started out with, those that were supposed to give you freedom. You find yourself up a creek without a paddle. Basically you submit, because the other culture generates more kids, or you start the evil killing. Widespread immigaration, is a huge problem, it starts for different motives, financial, aid..... but then winds up a difficult mess. Add to this the fact that you then make their countries of origin another total mess for profit, and you have one huge global mess. This does not mean you should not be multicultural, multilingual...you should, it just means you need manage it, in terms of source by demand, and destination with controllable rate and density. That management must as a priority be helping build back up the critical mass of the originating countries so that there is huge advantage to return, plus a tolerant just set of SINGLE rules that can apply to everyone. Imagine people go and change their countries to 'democracy' then moan when they want to change the others countries to Sharia or something else. If you don't have viable countries, you just have endless country transforming diaspora, a globalised mess as every one wants a home, so everything is up for grabs. People naturally migrate for advantage, so whilst it is there, there will always be migration So if you follow a global ideology at a rapid rate, the walls will come down and the local ideologies will back feed into the global ideaology. What was then a far away war, identified by country borders, then becomes a local war. identified by district and regions.
Sam, You are a "racist" for opposing the wishes of the Muslims in UK. The best solution for UK is to intermarry a Muslim into their "royal family" . Such a marriage will serve as an example of Christian - Muslim cohabitation and love. The sooner such a marriage is arranged the better for UK.
UK should accomoate their fellow Muslims compatriots in the name of democracy, brotherhood and unity, equality and all the other bells and whistles which they claim makes them "civilized" society and other trappings of neo-colonialism. How about building more Mosques in London for a start?
Count Cash please see my comment if it gets posted. This is not case about Islam or new immigrant to the UK or it is about "sharia' as such. Note: Sharia is about simple things as respect to one' family, not stealing, not telling a lie, etc unless one's life would be at stake, etc. This group of small fanatics serve the agenda of those who want to run on anti-immigrant plateform. Sharia is already in the UK and people use it in their daily life. We need to clarify the language of what is meant by Sharia law!
PR101, Your comments are fully accepted, I tried to widen the discussion with 'Sharia or something else' because I think there are really much bigger issues with imigration than Sharia, and that what Saria is and what it can be 'used' to mean can be a problem in itself. I honestly believe you do need responsible immigartion, and you need a sensible dicussion on it. The groups on each side are trying to prevent this, so as to try to assert tribal dominance. This is what you get in no holds barred tribal conflict for supremacy, rather than a system of laws that embodies tolerence and real protection for cultural diversity. Doing nothing is not an option, neither is being held hostage to diversionary fights, to prevent those discussuions and laws.
The Brits themselves invited mass Third World immigration into the UK. News clips from the early 1950s show the Brits rushing the trains, bringing in Third World immigrants, with tea and crumpets. The Brits were studding around the world proclaiming their greatness for the decision to make UK multiracial. Now, when the Brits finally have their precious "multi-racial UK", they are beginning to panic - too bad. The only way to make UK truly multi-racial is to integrate that "royal family" of theirs. A mulatto royal family would do wonders for the self esteem of the Brits.
there will be sharia in England the day women can wear a miniskirt in Saudi Arabia.
what would happen if every culture in this country was so obsessed with ruining the english way with there own demands, all in the interest of equality or human rights. what a mess. no. you go to a country to better yourself to get free from danger and with that comes a little sacrifice of living the way of the people of that country. its just respect and being thankful that that country is helping you in your life. there are so many people that dont belong here through there treasonous and illegal ways.
"The British government is making a HUGE MISTAKE GIVING THEM ACCESS to BRING SHARIA LAW HERE"...Well said , I agree ! Any protest if fine but call for Sharia law in G.Britain is extreme for many reasons! It took 1000 of years for all Europe, to come at this stage of some kind democracy which serve us good (never perfect) at present times.We are proud what we achive up till today.We got our way of life and our human laws. People from other cultures, who are never happy to live among us in freedom and in our states, shall go where they come from, and practice UNHUMAN Sharia law there .For all of this , I dont blame this extremists but I blame our wrong government past policies. Wake up Britain, you never deserved this to be heard in your streets from people which you welcome with open arms and give them home!This calls are attack on your Great civilization and on your future generations! Calls for Sharia law in G.Britain does boil my blood! In my opinion, something radical has to be done from now on and not only in Britain but in all Europe! Honesly, enough is enough! Thank you.
Sharia Law or any other relgious based law has no place in the UK. The UK is a secular democracy. Sharia law is unfair to women and children and to non muslims. It belongs in the dark ages and has no place in 21st century Britain. The other danger this country is facing is the rise of fundamentalist christianity. On a practical point - can you imagine the chaios of allowing every relgious group to be allowed to be governed by their own laws and courts. When talking about Sharia law - which version of Sharia are you talking about - Suni Islam has four major schools of law - you then have the Shia tradition - I am not sure how many schools of law they have and then you have the various Sufi orders!!!
if they want sharia Law, they can go back to Saudi Arabia, United kingdom is a christians country, it has no place for sharia Law.
June 21, 2010, 16:59, Kihnu wrote > The best solution for UK is to intermarry a Muslim into their "royal family" . Such a marriage will serve as an example of Christian - Muslim cohabitation and love. The sooner such a marriage is arranged the better for UK. In before Diana is mentioned.
Sharia Law? Over my dead body!
I see the nationalists are labelled "right-wing" - again. Is sharia law, with its stoning of women and hanging of homosexuals right-wing?
I am from the UK and I don't want sharia law in my country. I am a christian but don't force my belief's on others. One law for all and that is secular law.
Don't allow sharia law in UK. If UK do that mistake it will loose their right to speech. Just tell them if they want to live in UK they have to obey the laws of UK or else go back and live in those radical countries. Long live right to speech.
Hey Kihnu, what race is islam again? I seem to have forgotten. Can you tell us all, please? And how does apposing a fascist totalitarian ideology like shariah law somehow become, racist










Sharia law where? sorry not here, if they don't like laws in the UK, they are welcome to move to Saudi Arabia. Has nothing to do with nationalists only common sense. Next thing we will see is that the paedophiles will start claiming they are a minority and will want their own laws too.