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We are witnessing a slide into civil war in Libya - Russian lawmaker

Published: 03 March, 2011, 18:41
Edited: 04 March, 2011, 12:31

Defected Libyan soldiers and volunteers cheer as they sit on the outskirts of the eastern town of Brega, Libya, Thursday, March 3, 2011

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As events continue to unfold in the Arab world, RT spoke to the head of Russia's Foreign affairs committee Mikhail Margelov, who said it is a crucial time for the whole Arab region that is searching for its new identity.

­RT:From the latest news, would you describe the events in Libya as a revolution or has it turned into a civil war already?

Mikhail Margelov: Well, my feeling is that it looks more and more like a civil war. Any revolution can turn into a civil war if it does not solve all the problems of the regime change overnight. It happened in Russia after the 1917 Revolution. It was happening in several countries. So there is nothing strange.

RT:How likely is the UN-US intervention in Libya?

MM: Well, I suspect that today when America is involved in two difficult wars in the Islamic world – Afghanistan and Iraq – the decision to get into another war, in spite of whether it is short or long, will do serious damage to the image of President Obama. I do not think for him…For domestic consumption it will be a wise decision.

RT:We do hear Hilary Clinton coming out and say that “they need assistance. Let’s help”.

MM: If people ask for assistance that means that the international community should consider that request. But when the leader of the Interim government, former minister of the Interior – whoever he is – says that the people of Libya are ready to solve the problems which they face in Libya themselves…Well I think if no one asks for assistance why should they give assistance? I think that for the Libyan interim government it is very important now to show that it is able to deliver. And of course there is a lot of bloodshed in Libya, but it seems like the people who are against Gaddafi’s regime are ready for sacrifice. 

RT:But some believe that Gaddafi is politically a living corpse. Who is likely to replace him? And would this person need to have the US blessings?

MM: I think that first of all with what is happening now in Arab world, in Tunisia, in Egypt, in Libya, in other countries we can hardly predict who is going to be the leader. Neither the US nor Russia, neither the EU nor the league of Arab states were ready to predict such a chain of revolutions as have happened in the Arab world. And we do not know much about the opposition leaders, because many of them are not traditional political leaders. Many of them just emerge in the street during the fight. In Libya I think we shall see many competing groups after the end of Gaddafi’s era. We shall see tribal leaders, we shall see political leaders from the north, and we shall see people who are in exile abroad and there will be a really strange cocktail of interests and spheres of interests – those who will be coming back from the US will bring them some American ideas, those who will be coming from the desert will come with the nomadic civilization, heritage…so we cannot say who is going to be the next leader, the new president.

RT:Like you have said we have seen an unprecedented wave of social uprisings across the Arab world. What do these countries have to go from now? Can they handle the situation on their own?

MM: Well I think that first of all we see that the new generation in Arab world is tired of ruling regimes which they did not elect. People who are in power in most of these countries ruled their countries for more than 20 years. And for those who are about 20-30 years old it is very difficult to say why they have these rulers. So their philosophy, their way of thinking, their understanding and their search for identity is something which emerges within the Arab societies. And you can hardly impose any ideology on them; you can hardly impose democracy or western standards. You can hardly impose the sheer rules of Iranian standards or even the Turkish model. I think that the discussion within the Arab world, about the future of the Arab world is only starting now.

RT:What would all this that is going on in the Arab world mean for Iran?

MM: For Iran, to my mind, it is a very important time. After the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, Iran has become the strongest nation in the Middle East and Islamic world. After that, this position was challenged by changing views of Turkish government. Turkey demanded that it wants to be the strongest nation at least at the Sunni world or in the greater Middle East as a whole. And now Iran is seeing that some Arab countries after the change of the regime, after the modernization in these countries can say “No we are Arab leaders, we are leaders of the Islamic world.” And I think that there will be a really serious dispute in the Islamic world as a whole, not only including Iran, Turkey and the Arab world, but also including Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia and India which has the biggest Muslim population in Asia.


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Svyatlana March 07, 2011, 23:08
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@ The western oligarch

Don't blame yourself or Paul - it's called failed decentralisation in Russia .

The western oligarch March 06, 2011, 14:46
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@Paul. I wouldn't take any western report seriously either. Media is controlled by the great western plutoarchy in form of major global corporations. What russian media gives us is a balance to the western media reports.

 

You talk about China. But how is it with our own democracy? The western democracy? Do the problems in china justify undemocratic behavours in the western world?

 

Do the socialism dictatorship in China justify that our own governments whom the people invested our democracy in,  now runned by major corporations that have no other intersets than their own profit. Our governments are in a deomcratic hostage supervised by these oligarchy type of powers.

 

And when it comes to oligarhcy we in western media seems to like it. Our politicians in especially EU protect these men that once had the Russian peoples assets stolen.

 

TO THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE:

 

Don't blame Putin, Medvedev ot any of your leaders for not solving the oligarchy issue. It's my fault, this Pauls fault. We lets our governments prevent your leaders to solve it by talking how awful China an other countries is. We let our leaders protect those who once raped your country, and those who want you harm even today. We protect our leaders that don't even care about it's people, so why should they care about you?

 

/A guy from Sweden

Paul March 04, 2011, 21:20
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First off, one cannot take any Russian report seriously given the government controls the media.  If you don't play with Putin you wind up dead or missing.  Every article on this site is anti-west along with the BS commentors who never check their facts.   What is happening in Libya is of great concern to Russia as they have devolved from a promising democracy from the Gorbachev revolution to what is now nothing more than authoritarizn rule by Czar Putin.  We are already seeing the crackdown in China and my assumption is there will soon be protests in Russia.