“Islam is not so much a religion, but more an ideology” – Geert Wilders
Published: 07 March, 2010, 09:41
Edited: 11 October, 2010, 19:07
Far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders told RT that Islam wants to rule and dominate not only all aspects of one’s life, but all aspects of society.
The problem is when anyone makes incentives with political pretension in “religious thriller” having potentially exploitable Iran issue in its derivative background. Timing is what matters in politics. The preemptive Western dogma is fake rationale and definitely religious impotence.
It is a shame that here in the UK I have to go to a russian TV station to simply get the the simple talk by Geert - He may be claimed to be right wing - to me he is talking middle of the road balaneced and realistic For even if it is a religion - it is anything but tollerant of non believers and those it imagines as offenders against the faith. I remain born a non practicing Christian and have no wish to live under any law other than my christian forefathers considered acceptable to live a reasonable life - Tollerant of all - until they cross the line.... when in Rome........
The guy is mad! He has no idea what Islam is all about! He says he wants whats best for Europe, but what he does is deviding Europe and cousing hate and seperation in sosiety instead of bringing understanding and unity!! Dark times ahead for Europe, because of eval people like him!
I do believe that Geert Wilders still has the right to free speech I mean after all that is what the Western Culture is all about freedom, but what seriously angers me is when people take freedom of speech and pulverises it till there is no free speech that is what is happening here, all over the globe all of our freedom's and free will are piece by piece taken away from us till we all become nothing but soulless robot's that are always told what to do and always have to obey this is not freedom this is Tyranny wearing a cloak. I hope Russia does not criticize Geert because he is virtually all of what's left of free speech high up in the political arena. What also makes me sad is ever since Islam came into the western world yeah it was taboo and yeah it was an unknown but our curiosity has indeed been fully in vain and naive and that is simply what Islam is truly about deception rather than peace, If you look at southern Russia mainly in Chechnya,Dagestan,Ingushetia,North Ossetia,and Kabardino Balkaria those Muslims used to live rather peaceful together with Russian Orthodox Christian's in Southern Russia but this small part of Russian soil has become a battlefield designed to divide Southern Russia filled with rather unfortunate violence countless of Russians have died in the process that is simply upsetting to see this but that is what Islam is about deceiving and corrupting their own vision on what Islam was meant to be peaceful. I can only say that Freedom is precious and we all must embrace Freedom because if there is no Freedom all of us will fall under the hand's of "Cloaked Tyranny". Finally the Northern Caucasus does have a Terrorist movement called The Caucasus Emirate they want to take away a large portion of Russia away which is Unacceptable these five region's of Russia have seen too much violence they just want to live in peace and harmony with each other is that really hard to ask for these great citizens of Russia.
I wonder if RT.com has ever referred to Obama as a "far left" politician?
Much ado about nothing, as far as 'Fitna' goes. Now that I've seen it., I can't figure out what all the fuss is about. Wilders very mini film juxtaposes the actions of extreme Islamic Extremists with the portions of the Koran that they use to justify their actions, without any additional commentary by himself on the rightness or wrongness of their actions. There is nothing to merit the huge outcry against both him and the film. Meanwhile, in many Islamic countries the 'Protocols of Zion' are passed around with the blessings of their governments, along with all sorts of anti-Christian and anti-Western propaganda. This propaganda is further passed on and circulated within the extreme segments of the Islamic communities in the West, as well as amongst those well-meaning westerners and groups that support them. But point this out, and you get tarred and feathered by the very liberal extremist elements. Wilders has a valid point. Europe and the West have their own values and culture. It is wrong for Muslims to attempt to impose Islamic values and culture on countries that are not theirs, just as it is wrong for the West to impose it's culture and values on other countries. If you move to another country, you integrate. That is what my parents did (even giving up their former citizenships), and that is what I expect other immigrants to do. We did not, and do not impose our culture on those around us. Furthermore, if any westerner were to move to an Islamic country, they would be expected to adapt to the culture and laws of that country, so it is unreasonable to demand that the West change itself to accommodate them. Wilders' movement is the backlash resulting from Muslins going too far in their demands that the West accommodate them. It's a sign that things have tipped too far out of balance and the natives are not happy about it.
By the way, there is NO comparison between the Koran and Mein Kampf in the film 'Fitna'. You are confusing two separate issues: the film, and Wilder's position on the banning of Mein Kampf in the Netherlands. Wilders has taken the reasoned position that if you ban a book like Mein Kampf because you believe it to a dangerous book that incites violent behavior, you must also ban other books, such as the Koran, that violent extremists use to justify their actions. The reasoning and comparison is very sound. I doubt those condemning it have ever read Mein Kampf, or know what is really in it, and so miss a very important point. Mein Kampf is a monumentally long and boring book that actually contains very little that can be described as inductive to violent behavior. Furthermore most violent Neo-Nazis don't have the slightest grasp as to what National Socialism really was. To support this argument, I can point to numerous historians in the immediate port-WWII era who attest to the fact that anti-semitism only a minor and lesser facet of the overall political ideology. The significance of Mein Kampf, therefore, is what it's representative of to certain specific groups of violent people. Exactly the same, point for point, can be said of the Koran. Wilders is, in effect, drawing a parallel, and condemning selective censorship. As someone who is deathly opposed to the censorship of any historical document, I applaud him for it. I would also like to ask how many people condemning Wilders for this stance have read 'The Satanic Verses'? Once again, I have, and agree with the old joke that the only thing Rushdie deserved to be condemned for was bad writing. Yet the Koran was cited as the reason for putting a price on a man's head for writing a very silly fantasy sequence in an equally silly book.
March 07, 2010, 15:19, EML wrote > The guy is mad! He has no idea what Islam is all about! He says he wants whats best for Europe, but what he does is deviding Europe and cousing hate and seperation in sosiety instead of bringing understanding and unity!! > Dark times ahead for Europe, because of eval people like him! You do not require any knowledge of what Islam is about to get the picture and as a picture says more than a thousand words: "mad guy" Wilders is right. Theocratic Islam should get stopped from spreading any further and Muslims, whether they are moderate or not give this ideology more weight and importance than it deserves and are therefore implicitly responsible for a lot of human suffering. Go Wilders!
Traditionally it was the Jews who bore the brunt of fear, suspicion, and even hate, now it appears it is the Muslims turn. However, there are many history books which give a good account of how so called Christians behaved towards people of other religions / races, from between the middle ages up to as recently as the end of the British empire (although it could be argued that the USA have picked up where the British left off). Many of these accounts show a considerable lack of tollerance, repression of woman, the legalisation and acceptance of slavery, the concept of 'Holy War', justification of summary execution, the valuation of the lives of white people at the expense of dark skinned people, and other terrible issues that many in the west have conveinently forgotten. Please remember, fear of other cultures / beliefs / religions is not new. Education is the key to understanding, peace, and tollerance.
First of all we want to know that wat these european parliamentarians know about ISLAM ?.Its the most peaceful religion in Whole world and it gives rights to all in equal proportions and Islam protects Women from bieng showpiece in front of men and it protects the bound and care between families.In islam marriage is the only God's given way but in US and European societies illegitimate births cause the society a big damage no care for parents no law no idiology in American society is just becauce they have no religion.PEACE is Isalm and Islam is Peace.
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. THEN THEY CAME for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. THEN THEY CAME for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. THEN THEY CAME for me and by that time no one was left to speak up." -Martin Niemöller He compares Islam to Hitler, ironically enough Hitler did what he wants to do to the Muslims. There must be another way than to relive the same mistakes over and over again. I am a Christian, and yes I believe that Islam is wrong and Christianity is right (I would have to be a moron to stick to a religion that I didnt believe was true), but if I dont respect their rights and show them love, then how can we expect them to show us love? Its a tough situation... There are no easy answers
Don't mix religion with culture.
hahaha.he dont know about Islam..hahaha.try to think neutrally,which is very difficult,then you will know,
Hi all! People who blames a religion should know first about it to tell .. And to know one should read the holy books comes to know which is good and which is bad .. Simply by seeing some, People should not state words like this and become craps.. Islam is for peace...
Dear mark , do u know , islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, also in USA islam is the fastest growing. 2/3 of people coming to Islam in America are women, u know that. If Islam subjugating women, how women s are converting to Islam more that men. Brother, Islam is safeguarding women. Read quran and understand what Islam teaching. may peace be on all of u
Geert Wilders is a Zionist, hence he can not stand Muslims. It is a simple as that. The only people that ought to agree with him are people from the USA and the occupiers of Palestine. Interestingly enough both these groups are people that we have chased out of Europe in the past because they were unwanted...
Someone said Islam "protects" women, really? It's more like slavery. Women are not free to do as they choose. Also, isn't it Muslims that are the blowing themselves and other up? That's not very peaceful... Why isn't Muslims trying to stop these people? Islam is not a peaceful religion. It degrades women and teaches hatred.
Oh, excuse me. Islam degrades women by telling them to cover up their bodies in front of unrelated men? Then the west is doing a great job "uplifting" the women by pornography, rape, prostitution, before marriage sexual relations, strip clubs... and the list goes on forever. The west is portraying the women as a sex-object and maybe the public there doesnt even notice that. We all have different opinions but I still think that covering our mothers' and sisters' bodies in front of other men is better than stripping them nude, banging them, and make a video of it before uploading it to the internet thus "uplifting" the women. Some people are just pathetic
July 08, 2010, 18:55, Arsalan wrote > Oh, excuse me. Islam degrades women by telling them to cover up their bodies in front of unrelated men? Then the west is doing a great job "uplifting" the women by pornography, rape, prostitution, before marriage sexual relations, strip clubs... and the list goes on forever. The west is portraying the women as a sex-object and maybe the public there doesn't even notice that. We all have different opinions but I still think that covering our mothers' and sisters' bodies in front of other men is better than stripping them nude, banging them, and make a video of it before uploading it to the internet thus "uplifting" the women. Some people are just pathetic. Moreover your women just don't realize what you are doing to them. They are just sex toys for you. Just by throwing a few dollars, you keep them under your control. and you guys will loose your grip on them , once they realize what Islam gives them. Why your Nuns are Dressed like a Muslim woman? Only to be respected by others. Think of Nuns in swim suit, will you give the same respect as before? You all Hypocrites and make other believe what you say or do.










I agree with Geert Wilders that Islam has to be stopped in its tracks. Muslims want nothing less than the destruction of our entire western culture and the total subjugation of women. Muslims should be deported from western countries. Mark Montgomery boboberg@nyc.rr.com