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The Finn end of the wedge

Published: 21 December, 2009, 09:13
Edited: 07 April, 2010, 15:50


One of the highest rates of immigrants in Europe is drawing fears from Finns. Some are concerned that immigrants, attracted by Finland's generous welfare packages and high living standards, will overrun their country.

 
7 COMMENTS
Jeane December 23, 2009, 18:08 quote
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It is so stunning that these countries which are populated with such intelligent people can not look around the world and see the net result up bringing these type people into their countries. Even in my country where Blacks have lived for centuries we have never ending strife between us. Finnland, .... your invitation to foreign cultures will be your undoing.

Harri December 24, 2009, 21:57 quote
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Jeane, good observations. "....such intelligent people". V.I. Lenin used the term "useful idiots". It looks like someone is benefiting of bringing the chaos to Finland, but who?

Kihnu February 12, 2010, 10:58 quote
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The Finns wanted a multiracial society like Sweden - now they have it.

Doc April 06, 2010, 15:25 quote
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Over 15 million illegals in the US add their anchor kids (Kids born of illegal aliens) that comes to about 26 million people, 3 million illegal immigrants in Texas alone, they account for 23% of the states health care cost as they don't pay and the hospitals can't turn them away so the state has to pay. In addition they cost the education dept about an extra 17% of the state budget for education as the kids don't speak english so extra spanish speaking teachers have to be hired, add in overcrowding in the classrooms, violent crime, drunk driving, drug smuggling, people smuggling..... And good ole Nobama wants to make them legal so they can get free this, free that....

Olli February 06, 2011, 17:39 quote
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Kihnu wrote in #3

The Finns wanted a multiracial society like Sweden – now they have it.


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We did not want a multicultural society, at least nobody never ever asked from me. Our immigration policies went never through a normal democratic prosess. Immigration policies were made by bureaucrats only.


In general I would like to say that this "anti-immigrant movement" in Finland is not against all immigrants. It against those immigrants which causes harm to our country. Very often muslims from Middle-East and Africa are considered as immigrants which causes harm and troubles in receiving European countries (see examples from Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany, France, UK…. you got the point. In Russia you have your own problematic illegal immigrants from ex-Soviet muslim countries, so you know the problem).


It is not against an immigrant who comes to work in Finland, obeys our laws and respects our culture and way of life. 



Olli February 06, 2011, 17:40 quote
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Kihnu wrote in #3

The Finns wanted a multiracial society like Sweden - now they have it.

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To be exact, the movement is against our recent immigration policies, not against immigrants per se. Our politics have basically lied to us (= they have told only the positive effects of the immigration, like how some succesfull entrepreneur moved to Finland a 100 years ago and gave job to many Finns) and they haven't told how expensive it is, about the very high crime rates and so on. You wouldn't believe if I would tell you the amount of immigration propaganda (propaganda cheering for immigration) we have here in Finland in our leading newspapers. Basically we have a free press, but this immigration issue reminds us about the issue of how our media was handling the USSR in Finland in 1970's; one official thruth created by the leading politics. Never ever questionized..


I have friends besides here in Finland also for example in Russia, Germany and Czech. Some of them are catholic, some are orthodox, some are muslims (Tatar) and I am a protestant. Despite of our different backgrounds, we share common values about how a society should work. Therefore immigration between these countries should not be a problem (and it's not a problem, I think in general we have no negative experiences about this king of work/family-related immigration between two quite similar countries). And I have been and immigrant by myself, so I have some experience about this subject.


In Russia you know the saying "When in Rome, do as the Romans do"


Regards,

Olli

Olli February 06, 2011, 17:51 quote
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Harri wrote in #2

It looks like someone is benefiting of bringing the chaos to Finland, but who?

Only benefitters which comes to my mind are the possessers of the great capital. And I don't mean some relatively wealthy people, I mean that 1% which possesses the 80% of the wealth. Those people which really benefits from new infrastructure building (like public housing projects for unemployed African camel drivers), increased consumption, increased demand of social services like health care services. Basically any sector where a private sector is producing (or would like to produce) the services financed by a public sector.


It is a short road, but for a period of 10-20 years it is very profitable for some agents in the markets.

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