Oh my God, here they go again! Just what are they up to? What are they trying to achieve by glorifying Nazism?!?!? It could only hurt them.

RT: "The Erna unit was a Finnish Army formation of Estonian volunteers that spied behind Red Army lines." The Erna unit was one of the most elite reconoissances units in WW II. The Russians feared them, especially at night when a Red Army soldier would wake up to find his neighbor missing - dragged off by Erna vaimud (ghosts). I doubt the Erna boys attended any fascists meetings behind Russian lines. This RT program follows a similar pattern, which the Estonians are very familiar with. The Russian Federation would be advised to pay more attention to the incompetence within their own military, than complain about military exercises dedicated to one of the top reconoissance units ever to exist.

So the Fascist rally few days ago in Estonia, glorifying the Nazi collaborators and veterans, was only a prelude to the military show which Nazi Estonian Government was preparing to warn anti-fascist nations of its intention. Isn’t it time that Europe deals with this trouble making country before they do some really stupid thing?!?!?!?

Exactly: Oh my god, here we go again;) Estonia does not remember Nazi collaboration, but heroic band of brothers, Finnsih army unit of Estonian volunteers, who fought against retreating and civilian-murdering NKVD units. And for some strange reason, it is not only Estonia who rememebrs and honours those men, because armed forces all over the world are participating in those games. They came even from UK, Scotland, Belgium, US, Holland. What is common denominator of those countries? Oh, wait! Did not they all fight against Nazis. If ERNA games are glorifying Nazism, why armed forces of those countries are participating? Could it be that only Russia sees it as glorification Nazism? Why is that? Could it be that Russia has its own agenda to throw dirt on Estonia anyway they can? Where are all the positive news? This week, Estonia has offered its help to fight forest fires in Russia. This is not mentioned since this does not fit to the description of evil Nazi country?;)

@Kihnu ... "was one of the most elite reconoissances units" .... the sentense that i keep hearing from different people when they are talking about their own country special forces .. our guys are so special bla bla bla ... lol ... guess what .. i'll kick your special guys in the specials . :)

@Kihnu .. "I think more than "fear", the Russians are jealous of the bright, beautiful, and talented Estonians - deep in their hearts the Russians know that this is true" ... hahhahahha... oo .. wait .. my stomach still hearts from laughing.... you're so full of yourselves ... oh ahahhaha ... Estonian men are very beautiful and they are engaged in a special manly friendship with each other .... and often they invite carefully chosen males from other countries to participate in their special males celebration once a year .. where they can share their narcissism

It’s interesting to see how Russians (many of them, anyway) reason when it comes to the Baltics. They begin from an absolutely unshakable premise, the same one that Stalin invented to justify his Baltic crimes, and which he and his successors relentlessly drilled into Russian consciousness throughout 50 years of Soviet brainwashing: the Baltics are Nazis. The fact that no one else, including no standard history in the world agrees with this assertion is like water off a duck’s back. It doesn’t even begin to overthrow Russians’ Stalinist beginning premise; instead, all subsequent facts are re-interpreted on the basis of that immovable premise. Everything that is even vaguely anti-Soviet in Estonia (and plenty is), is immediately interpreted on that Stalinist premise, and on nothing else. But if the premise is crackpot, then of course so are conclusions based on it. And Russia is left to explain (in reality, it doesn’t even try to, because it cannot) how countries that repeatedly have sent military teams to the annual the Erna competition like Denmark, Belgium, USA, Norway, Sweden, Portugal, the Peoples’ Republic of China, Austria, Germany, the United Kingdom, Finland and Italy, amongst others, all celebrate Nazism along with Nazi Estonia. RT makes itself a ready mouthpiece for Russia’s Baltic confusions. Yet here is something it has not reported at all: right now Nazi Estonia’s Red Cross is taking up a public contribution for Russian forest fire victims, and Nazi Estonia has offered to provide much needed fire-fighting equipment and fire-fighters to Russia. It’s quite hard to match this with Russia’s immovable premise about Nazi Baltics, so perhaps RT is following the wise principle that if it doesn’t know what to say, it says nothing at all.

Way to go, Alex -- you have a steely grip on facts and your logic is awesome. Brilliant is certainly not an adequate word for it.

Perhaps we should see this "international military competition" as a positive sign of the Estonian self-sufficiency? The simple arithmetic may justify the need to generate some income: the entry fee starts from 120 EUR per person ( 200 EUR for latecomers) and there are 15 countries can be accommodated this year. Depending on the number of participants within a team ( conservative est. 30-40) and the duration of days competing it may be not such a bad idea to 'support' a country while playing wars as all boys like to do. But I have a couple of questions for our Finno-Ugric group here on RT: 1. The number of countries- participants has been reduced from 25 in 2009 to 15 in 2010. Wouldn't it possible to assume that many countries decided to 'disassociate' themselves from a controversy of the Erna Raid and its background? 2. What percentage of those 'earnings' did and will go to help your country's social reforms? Particularly, on the provision of free Estonian language courses for your "aliens" to help them to acquire the Estonian citizenship.

Kihnu, Your passage: "The Russian Federation would be advised to pay more attention to the incompetence within their own military, than complain about military exercises dedicated to one of the top reconoissance units ever to exist" is really out of this world. Spetsnaz is one of the best elite military forces in the world!!! And you honestly think they'll take your advice because...??

Just an update, ditorted of course: http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-holocaust-distorter-from-estonia-1.299613

Russian revisionism is not dead! Some people should learn History and they would see that Erna has nothing to do with facism...many comments here highlight this and some would be well inspired to read books and learn by themselves instead of believing the stupidity of what's written here! We should probably remind Russia that they signed a non-agression pact with Hitler before the war. Said differently it is a pact with Nazism.... this allowed them to slaughter Poland and the Baltic countries. So before criticising other countries for defending their territory, RT should look at what their own country did and try to inderstand before writing non sense like that article. Cheers from France!

@Kihnu I am well aware of the putrid hatered the Estonians have against the Russians even though if they would actually think for a second - it`s communism they hate, but being narrowminded it always has to be "easy" to point fingers at people, the Russians being the obvious choice in the Estonian self-glorifying hater`s head. A part of this inferiority complex is, of course, making myths like the one you just wrote. Maybe Kalev himself was involved in killing "reds" too? ha ha ha... Estonia being a small and politically insignificant country will always be, as it was in all recorded history - a bargain chip and a battleground between far greater and stronger nations... unless it gets its head out of a certain place and starts FOR ONCE thinking about its own true independence from any and all. You were a Soviet satellite before, now you are a NATO puppet. What can be said about that, congratulations, condolances? @Wiking Agreed, but nationalism is a tool in Estonia just as it was during the "revolution" (read: coup) in Ukraine. @IlveSS Good to see Estonia`s president in a black Yalmuka. To those who do not understand - a black Yalmuka is a sign of being an orthodox jew, in other words an extremist. Non-jews, or jews who pretend to be non-jews otherwise wear it only on special occasions to demonstrate their loyalty. Anyone can google both Bush and Obama in a black Yalmuka at the Wailing Wall. Dear Estonians, it is good to see that your president demonstrates so graphically his loyaty to Israel. This must be a joy for all Estonians to have such a reat, true-Estonian president. YOU ARE DEEP IN IT NOW!!! :-D

to Svetlana So you come to the conclusion that countries participating in Erna know that they glorify nazism but choose to do those in order to help poor Estonia financially?;) So when undeveloped Cambodia invites them to participate in games commemorating Pol Poth, they will go just to provide some financial support to Cambodia?;) There are several mistakes in your reply. I do not know about fees, but number of men in one team is not certainly 30-40, but 4 or 5. There is no limit on countries participating, but a limit of teams. This year there are 24 teams, most of them Estonian teams, but visitors come from Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Lithuania this year. The number of foreign teams are not diminished in despite of Russian nazi-rant. By the way, Russia started its ranting around the time when Bronze soldier was removed (not destroyed like many WWII monuments in Russia). Before that it had no objections.

August 05, 2010, 20:33, Svetlana wrote > Kihnu, > . Spetsnaz is one of the best elite military forces in the world!!! > About Russian Spetsnaz, I am sure they think they are cream of the cream. Whether relatives of hostages killed during the storming of Moscow theatre (129 killed) and Beslan school (334 killed), Budyonnovski hospital (129 killed) think the same remains to be seen. Do I have to add Kizlyar-Pervomayskoye hostage crises, where terrosista managed tp break out of the siege, taking even some hostages with them?

For those who do not know about Kautla massacre, it is an interesting reading. You will find out that Erna has NOTHING to do with the nazis but rescued thousands of civilians from a series of murders of civilians committed by pro-Soviet extermination battalions in Kautla, Estonia in July 1941!

NEWS FLASH..... Fact: Estonia was occupied by Nazi Germany Fact: During the Nazi occupation, Estonian territory was part of OSTLAND Fact: Germans had all the authority in the occupation government Fact: It is impossible for an "occupied" country to collaborate with its occupiers, that just doesnt make any sense! Fact: ESTONIA NEVER COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS Fact: The official Estonian position during WWII, though meaningless, was that of NEUTRALITY

Marzipan6, I'm struggling to fully understand your logic. Stalin was denounced in the USSR since 1954, the citizens were banned to pronounce even his name, Khrushchev apologised first for his terrors and after him was Yeltsin ,and so on. The only remnants of Stalin are resurfacing now and again here, on the RT's discussions, and I have to say that a great bulk has been bombarded from you. I have no doubts whatsoever that Estonia and Russia will find a long overdue peace eventually, but you'll be left behind still counting your family's lost fortune, and for you, probably, that peace will never be good enough. Regardless of your political orientation and your personal preferences, it's people of Russia and Estonia who have no interest in animosities, and it is always can be tested by tragedies or misfortunes on both sides. Russians would have done the same for the Estonia's fires. When the Soviet Army liberated the USSR and other countries they added much more to their archives for posterity, and doesn't matter how efficient some IT savvy volunteers of Wikipedia add their versions of events, the facts will only be facts if they're supported by officially recorded evidence and not by means of various interpretation to conceal shameful past. Although Russia has a plethora of veterans, Russia doesn't dwell on her 'shameful' veterans - they have been either tried and punished long ago, or they have been buried. For their families they may be their heroes, but only the unspoken ones.The Russian 'enthusiasts of the past' don't retrace their routs and treks to create military-sporting clubs to commemorate them many years later.

Svetlana: "Stalin was denounced in the USSR since 1954, the citizens were banned to pronounce even his name, Khrushchev apologised first for his terrors and after him was Yeltsin ,and so on. The only remnants of Stalin are resurfacing now and again here, on the RT's discussions, and I have to say that a great bulk has been bombarded from you. " Are you delusional or just misinformed????? Коммунистическая партия Российской Федерации; КПРФ is the successor to the former Communist party. These are the folks who parade with pictures of Stalin and the red hammer and cycle flag and scream communist slogans. The more I read of your posts the more I am convince that you are not well informed about what you post. Read the Economist 2001 article titled "Still there; Russia's Communists.(are Russia's Communists reviving?)" and become more informed.