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Top Czech commander resigns over Nazi scandal

Published: 17 December, 2009, 21:38
Edited: 27 December, 2009, 17:22


Images from zpravy.idnes.cz

A top military official from the 480-strong Czech contingent in Afghanistan has resigned following an incident with two Czech soldiers caught wearing Nazi symbols while serving in Afghanistan.

 
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Count Cash December 17, 2009, 19:07 quote
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It was the right thing to do for this individual, it is a great credit to the Czechs if they are going to conduct themselves in this way with respect to Nazi symbology. It is a great step forward, If Europe could follow suit and implement a pan European law to ban the use of SS symbols, then it would be a huge honourable step forward for them. No human needs this filth back!

a grandchild of US WW2 vets that fought against Natzis and Japs December 18, 2009, 15:28 quote
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Freedom of Speech? Not in Czech military, obviously. To those who ban symbols: You people are the book-burners of the world. Every person has the God-given right to think and speak as they choose. These symbols are just symbols. To a Czech, these may be the symbols of their grandparents, of their country, as it served in the Nazi army. This does not mean the Czech soldiers in question are running around Afghanistan building gas-chambers. No, they may be expressing patriotism in an unpopular historical way. As this is a Russian website, let me compare. The Soviet Union also had a powerful army and great influence. Young Russians can look back to the past symbols with a similar sort of historical patriotism - a feeling of respect for their grandparents. We know that the Stalin years had great injustice, but we also see that the Stalin years brought Russia from a backwards condition to a modern condition. We see this country with weak justice also began the space age. A young person can choose to draw moral strength from the achievements, but leave the drawbacks in the past; with social evolution. It is foolish to bury the symbols. When a symbol is banned, it becomes sexy, dangerous, exciting. When you demonize a person's anscestors, you are planting the seed of future resurgance. If you want a thing to stay dead, give it a proper burial with respect.

Count Cash December 18, 2009, 19:49 quote
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Free thought and free speech involve symbology, indeed symbols form the basis of language, which is the basis for thought. However, these symbols are not to be confused with Symbols used in conjunction with crime associations. The free speech extremist, tries to deal in generalities, they claim you are baning symbols; they never point out that you are only banning symbols that are associated with crime and that have led to the deaths of 80 million people. They claim you are burning books, but never point out the fact that you are only burning the books associated with those crimes. They never point out that millions of symbols remain, they never point out that millions of books remain. They never point out that you can generate whatever new books or symbols you like, with full freedom. They just try to point to the exception, that their symbol, which has been adjudged as part of criminal acts and has been part of immense human suffering, is banned, so they say every thing is banned and there is no freedom. When in truth, only their perverse symbol is banned. But there is method in their approach, they try to get their symbology back in circulation, using the free speech extremist approach. They argue it should exist as part of free speech; they then try to rebuild the ranks and then take the handles of power, then when they do, amazingly all the books are burn't and only their symbol appears. They rely on inactivity of the masses and activity of their classes. However, we are too wise to fall for this approach again. We are active we are on alert, and we will tell you straight. Think what you like, speak within the law, but try to use these perverse symbols and you will find yourself outside the law. We do not live in a jungle, we live in civilisation; with that comes rights and responsibilities. Only the jungle has unlimited rights; in civilisation, we apply law, that law places restrictions on everyone, be that to prevent obsenities, to prevent hatred....

dictating December 19, 2009, 20:34 quote
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The most dangerous thing in the world today is the game of being "politically correct" at all cost. The restricting of someone else's freedom of speech or freedom of expression just to score political gain/points in a politically correct phoney put on dog and pony show is what is currently wrong with the world, in a nut shell. The next time it could well be your freedom of speech or freedom of expression that is taken away. It is not necessary to agree with anyone's free expression, but it is dangerous to take it away. This is how nasty dictatorships take root. Also, this is the main way phoney office holders get elected. They tear down someone else to enhance their own political agenda, using special interest money to buy the air time. Politics can be a very dirty and evil thing. The people, supposedly being represented, mean absolutely nothing to the greedy politician. His/her total interest is the big money their special interest handlers can provide to them. So much for democracy in this NEW WORLD ORDER.

Count Cash December 20, 2009, 19:36 quote
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Poitical corectness is indeed an issue, but not here, this issue has zero to do with political correctness. This is about living in civilisation and not the jungle. The extremist will argue that if you make one rule, then you are automatically on the path to dictatorship. But they never mention that we have rules against incitement, rules against slander, rules aginst libel ..... already. Wow why haven't these rules taken to us immediately to dictatorship. They haven't because we have in civilisation, codified rules concerning criminal actiity. The Nazis were adjudged to be criminal, and they were criminals that brought absolute evil to this earth. Should we feel guilty for baning their filth and the expression of it, in order to regroup, simply no. Are we on the path to dictatorship because of it, simply no. What we are doing, is stopping the extremist using the crowbar of free speech in a trojan way to rekindle their criminal associations. It is no accident that some nations have already implemented legislation to strengthen the approach against the neo Nazis, well done to them! But we need more, and a common front, the way we defeated them in the first place.

vista December 27, 2009, 06:30 quote
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The Chech symbol thing was blown out of proportion and very stupid of the instigators. Sensationalism reporting and "do gooder" put on by a bunch of phoneys is nonproductive to humanity as a whole. How would Russians like it if all soviet era symbols and monuments were treated as "filth" and banned worldwide. This is the flipside of the coin. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Those of us who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Let freedom of speech and freedom of expression prevail everywhere for everyone, not just those in favor.

Drakkar September 28, 2011, 12:56 quote
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The 5-pointed star, known as the Pentagram, or Baphomet Star, is the most notorious of occult symbols, far outranking the Swastika or anything else you can name. The USA has 50 of them on each side of their flag, for 100 in total. The USA and Russia both paint the Pentagram on their military vehicles.

 

Any student of the occult can tell you this, which is why the Pentagram is such a popular tattoo as well as a national symbol. Those who damn the swastika or other Nazi era symbols while proudly displaying and revering a far more ancient and evil occult symbol are simply hypocrits.

 

Lose your own evil symbols first before pointing fingers at a lesser symbol.

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