Climate change debate heats up on RT
Published: 25 November, 2009, 21:16
Edited: 30 January, 2010, 15:20
A weather program coordinator for the World Wildlife Fund in Russia, Aleksey Kokorin, and an independent weather forecaster from London, Piers Corbyn, had a heated debate on what causes climate change.
You mentioned the expedition to the North Pole! I challenge any of you to look at the route planned and route taken and look at the North Pole as a whole. The North Pole is huge in comparison. They didn't even make it all the way because of the Ice. What allowed them to travel like that? Satellites!!! Guess what, they had Icebreakers with them. And they had daily BBC news coverage. Sounds political stunt to me. Considering a scientific expedition usually involves scientists who are too busy for nonsense. That whole expedition was a joke! Weather and climate change are different. Moscow is wet now for no more than a week! We already had snow in OCTOBER! The average temperature for last years summer and this year was around 23 degrees! We had a few days around 26 and 28. I remember back in 2000, we had 45 degree summer days! Where have they gone?!!! WWF is talking weather. The meeting of the nations is a waste of time because they only want their Carbon Taxes which will impoverish nations. Russia will lose its middle class it has been desperately building. The child births that are now happening will definitely end. And then there will be a TRUE Threat to Russia's existence! It is true that it is meant to stop development. And this man made climate change has been attempted at before in the 1970's and it was proven wrong. It only exists through fraud.
As we do so often, it seems to me that we miss the point. For the past 2000 years, what we may call the Earth's geological attitude has been relatively calm (volcanos' eruptions and earthquakes have not done too much damages). Our planet's movement in the Univers obey to physical laws which are irreversible. For instance, the Earth maximum inclinaison will bring in the next thousand years an other glacial period wich occure every 200000 years and last 25000 years. Our planet has known very cold and very hot climats thru its existance, but never so many members of a nuisible creature. We are 6,7 billions humans, now. We shall be 9 billions in 2020 and over 12 billions in 2050. Beside, we are very badly repartee. Countries like Russia and Canada (even considering their climats) are underpopulated and have plenty to eat; when asiatic and african states are overpopulated and have very little to eat. CO2 emissions are bad; it was worse when numerous volcanic erruptions occured. What is catastrophic is the damages made to Earth by humans in search of oil in Alberta (Canada) or elsewhere and the thousands square kilometers of forests destroyed each year on he surface of the planet. We can add the tarred highways and the cemented surfaces which the increase of population will require. The real problems are not faced because our economies managed by cynical arrivists who have a cash-register instead of brain, need not humans, but makers and custumers. Unless we intelligently slow down our demography and our consumering, we are damned to extinction. It is not necessary to go to Harvard-University, the french ENA or Moscow-University to understand this evidence: money is humanity's cancer (you need some to live on but you must never be the slave of it). Sorry Future Generations !
The WWF?! Oh, please. The "World Wildlife Fund" was begun in about 1965, by Prince Philip -- well, it was first the Club of 1000, and then the Club of Rome. Getting together the royal family and their friends decided to, of course, put all fauna and flora above human beings, thus, birthed the WWF. It came to America, first as "eminent domain" for SALMON RECOVERY and other sorts of ideas about how to do their cannibalism dressed up modern as globalism. DEGENERATES RUN THE MONEY SYSTEM and this is the problem. When degenerates become rulers of billions of human beings and the GOLDEN DECLINE is glaring (see GWB, et al.) we are in trouble and it is this simple. Prince Philip is no environmentalist and he is certainly not benevolent towards nature, or he would not be setting up WWF to exempt humans.
Well WWF will NEVER get another cent from me or my family. I have had suspicions about WWF for many years, but this is proof that they lie to further their political agenda. Greenpeace have lost my support as well in the past 24 hours. There is obviously a lot of money to be made for these political organizations from Copenhagen. While I am at it, I am SO disgusted with WWF, Greenpeace and myself for supporting them in the past, that I intend on eating a whale burger when I travel to Japan.
I think there is no question that the climate is changing but the big question is if human activity is causing it and how much will we be taxed over something we have no control. It sounds like an excuse for someone or some organization to extract a lot of money and power to rule over other nations as a world governing agency ...
If the developed countries indeed have the technologies that they are so anxious to provide to "poor" countries that are somehow more climate-challenged then the rich, then why do not these same rich countries USE their own miraculous technologies to eliminate carbon emmissions? Why not show that they work? And what kind of carbon-producing activities can these miracle technologies address. Somehow, everything sounds hollow, stupid and lacking even the modicum of intelligent lying necessary to fool the dumbed-down population. In fact, the whole thing is so stupid (and then one gets Nobel prize for it), that it defies the imagination. The biggest poluters, cure thyselves! The little island states, such are the breaks. Some islands appear, others disappear. It has been like that forever, and will not magically stop because we can train cows how not to produce methane. For as long as 75% of metereological stations in Russia have not been included into the calculations of temperature world-wide, there is no point discussing any warming. And for as long as we are being treated as infants when it comes to the Southern Hemisphere being COOLER and ice larger then fifty years ago, I will just ask the advocates to get real.
This article by Dr Singer rebuffs this silly human caused global warming theory. We humans have always had a over inflated opinion of ourselves. We do not affect global warming, ....IT affects us. We are but passengers on this spaceship called earth and we take what is server to us. By example just one large volcano spews out more greenhouse gasses in one year than all the pollutants we puny humans have made in the last 1000 years. Please understand and read this paper by Dr. Singer. also understand that Al GORE and his "team" who won the Nobel joke prize, LIED! Yup lied. Why? You may ask because It make$ lot$ of money and gives him power. Gores personal worth went from a mere one million + dollars to now over 100 million dollars, Thats WHY ! read the posts by Artyom, he gets IT . and read Singers article >> here http://www.hillsdale.edu/hctools/ImprimisTool/archives/2007_08_Imprimis.pdf ================================================================================================================== Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural? S. Fred Singer Professor Emeritus of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia S. Fred Singer is professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, a distinguished research professor at George Mason University, and president of the Science and Environmental Policy Project. He performed his undergraduate studies at Ohio State University and earned his Ph.D. in Physics from Princeton University. He was the founding dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences at the University of Miami, the founding director of the U.S. National Weather Satellite Service, and served for five years as vice chairman of the U.S. National Advisory Committee on Oceans and Atmosphere. Dr. Singer has written or edited over a dozen books and monographs, including, most recently, Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years.










The World Wildlife Fund has said that the cooling in the world is caused by Man Made Global Warming, That is called Double Speak!!! It is nonsense. The Sun creates Climate Change! Our temperature changes on earth correlate with those on other planets. The debate is practically over with the emails proving they manipulate data and use peer review, a process they controlled by all being the peers, to win debates. They were receiving Federal Grants around the world which would push Carbon Taxes on the populations of the world. It would have been the biggest tax scheme in the World history. Global warming is a scam that hijacked real environmentalism. Pollution is a real threat to the environment, yet governments and big businesses, the same one's who want to impose Carbon Taxes upon us are the ones that dump nuclear waste in oceans, pour chemical runoff, and pollute with real toxic gases, not CARBON DIOXIDE which we all exhale. Carbon Tax is anti life. Carbon Tax would destroy economies around the world. WWF also used September 11th in a TV Ad which was highly distasteful. Stating the Tsunami killed more people than September 11th. Fault lines move, I am sure they move because we breath, right? WWF is absolutely distasteful. Things like BANNING Incandescent light bulbs! OUTRAGEOUS!!! How such rules in our world? I find it interesting that Julian Huxley, the founder of WWF was the vice president of Britain's Eugenics Society (1937-1944). This is a group that wants to shrink life through selective breeding, abortions, and just flat out killing unwanted people in the name of environmentalism and conservationism. It is a belief out of Hitler's Nazism world! These are the people RUNNING the Agendas now! Don't just listen to the news. The thing is EVERYONE Wants to live in a clean environment. However, the Global Warming is pushing a horrifying agenda