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Published: 24 July, 2010, 03:26
Edited: 12 October, 2010, 16:21


July 23 marks the final day of an international AIDS conference where scientists from around the world have worked to fight and cure the disease. At the same time some continue to deny the conventional wisdom about AIDS.

 
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stole July 24, 2010, 07:12 quote
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Part 4, Anything that breaks down the immune system causes Aids and that includes so-called recreational drugs. The vast majority of Aids deaths in the United States involve homosexuals and this perpetuates the myth that it has something to do with sex. But homosexuals in the US are among the biggest users of drugs which genuine doctors have linked to Aids. Prostitutes who take drugs often get Aids, prostitutes who do not take drugs invariably do not get Aids. The rise in the Aids figures in the United States corresponds perfectly with the increase in the use of drugs - most of which are made available to people on the streets by elements within the US Government, including Bill Clinton and George Bush. In Africa, the breakdown of the immune system, now known as Aids, is caused by ill health - lack of good food, clean water and the general effects of poverty. Haemophiliacs do not die from HIV-infected blood, they die, as they did before the Aids scam, from a quirk in their own immune system. Their immune system locks into foreign proteins in the infused blood and on rare occasions it can become confused during this process and attack itself. Their immune system, in effect, commits suicide. HIV is irrelevant to that. Yet how many people today who have been diagnosed HIV positive are having their lives blighted by the fear that the symptoms of Aids will start any moment? AZT is the killer. There is not a single case of AZT reversing the symptoms of Aids. How can it? It's causing them, for goodness sake. The Aids industry is now worth billions of pounds a year and makes an unimaginable fortune for the drug industry controlled by the Rockefellers and the rest of the Global Elite."

stole July 24, 2010, 07:13 quote
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Part 3, It destroys the immune system, so CAUSING Aids. People are dying from the treatment, not the HIV. Aids is simply the breakdown of the immune system, for which there are endless causes, none of them passed on through sex. That's another con which has made a fortune for condom manufacturers and created enormous fear around the expression of our sexuality and the release and expansion of our creative force. What has happened since the Great Aids Con is that now anyone who dies from a diminished immune system is said to have died of the all encompassing term, Aids. It is even built into the diagnosis. If you are HIV positive and you die of tuberculosis, pneumonia, or 25 other unrelated diseases now connected by the con men to "Aids", you are diagnosed as dying of Aids. If you are not HIV positive and you die of one of those diseases you are diagnosed as dying of that disease, not Aids. This manipulates the figures every day to indicate that only HIV positives die of Aids. This is a lie. Many people who die from Aids are not HIV positive and the reason that the figures for Aids deaths have not soared as predicted is that the overwhelming majority of people diagnosed HIV positive have never developed Aids. Why? Because HIV has nothing whatsoever to do with Aids.

stole July 24, 2010, 07:15 quote
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Part 1, HIV does NOT cause AIDS! "AIDS: The Great Con Trick HIV does NOT cause Aids. HIV does not cause anything. A staggering statement given the hype and acceptance by the scientific establishment and, through them, the public that the HIV virus is the only cause of Aids. HIV is a weak virus and does not dismantle the immune system. Nor is Aids passed on sexually. There are two main types of virus. Using the airplane analogy, you could call one of these virus strains a "pilot" virus. It can change the nature of a cell and steer it into disease. This usually happens very quickly after the virus takes hold. Then there is the "passenger" virus which lives off the cell, goes along for the ride, but never affects the cell to the extent that it causes disease. HIV is a passenger virus! So how on earth did it become the big boogy man virus of the world? The person who announced that HIV caused Aids was an American, Doctor Robert Gallo. He has since been accused of professional misconduct, his test has been exposed as fraudulent, and two of his laboratory executives have been convicted of criminal offenses. Tens of millions of people are tested for HIV antibodies every year and Dr Gallo, who patented his "test", gets a royalty for every one. Luc Montagnier, Gallo's partner in the HIV-causes-Aids theory, has since admitted in 1989: "HIV is not capable of causing the destruction of the immune system which is seen in people with Aids". Nearly 500 scientists across the world agree with him. So does Dr Robert E Wilner, author of the book 'The Deadly Deception. The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause Aids'.

Andy Lindsay July 24, 2010, 20:43 quote
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Where is the HIV ? Ive never seen it ! Ive asked to see it , to see the proof they say HIV exists , every virologist , every consultant physician , the CDC , FDA , my GP , BHIVA , not one of these so called specialists has answered my request. 25 years of psychological terror later , i find out that the HIV tests do not even test for HIV ! This is stated in the test kit inserts . If anyone is still in any doubt as to what im saying , ask yourself this , when donating blood , why do they ask you all the questions about your sexual history or if you are a drug user when the blood is already screened. The same questions they ask before an HIV test are also asked. Why ? Why when the test kit should be able to tell them the answer ? Becuse the test kits dont test for HIV is why. Its not rocket science.

John Lauritsen July 24, 2010, 22:23 quote
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To add to the few points I could make in the interview: the talk I gave at the Vienna conference, AIDS: zwischen Wissen und Dogma (AIDS: Between Knowledge and Science) -- "The AIDS Hoax and Gay Men" -- is now online at: http://paganpressbooks.com/jpl/VIENNA.HTM My major AIDS book is _The AIDS War_ (1993), which is still in-print. JL

Croft Woodruff July 25, 2010, 20:14 quote
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Testing HIV–positive means one, presumably, has been exposed to the virus that is alleged to cause AIDS. Eighty different conditions—including pregnancy, malnutrition, multiple infections, multiple sclerosis, measles, and exposure to a flu or hepatitis B shot—are known to trigger a false HIV–positive. According to the New England Journal of Medicine: “The techniques of the HIV test have not been standardized, and the magnitude and consequences of inter laboratory variations have not been measured. Its results require interpretation, and the criteria for the interpretation vary not only from lab to lab, but also from month to month.” Because of so many variables involved, the many HIV tests are seriously flawed and invalid. The consequences of this fact are that many people, including pregnant women and newborns, are being treated for a condition they do not have. In fact, the disclaimer by the manufacturers of the test kits specifically states that the tests are not to be used to diagnose or treat HIV/AIDS. They are not licensed for that purpose. Virus tests without virus isolation? Controversy rages in scientific circles as to whether or not the AIDS virus even exists. Since HIV/AIDS emerged in the early ’80s, all known and accepted scientific investigative techniques have failed to prove the existence of a virus. No electron photograph (micrograph) of an isolated HIV particle has ever been published. Virologists have yet to develop a vaccine that does not kill or cause serious adverse reactions. Anti retro-viral drugs are so poisonous and immune-suppressive that they have become part of a self-fulfilling prophecy in support of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis. Disclaimers by the drug companies that their anti retro-viral drugs do not cure AIDS and that risks include death and damage speak volumes. Finally, if an HIV vaccine is ever developed that does not injure or kill, how will anyone know that it works? By testing HIV–positive?

Cheryl Nagel July 26, 2010, 19:50 quote
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As Dr. Klaus Koehnlein stated clearly in an interview, the first AIDS patients were given mega doses of AZT, which killed them; This led to the dogma that made everyhbody think that HIV caused AIDS, when it was really the AZT that caused the AIDS. Also, as pointed out numerous times, the HIV tests do not test for HIV. They test for specific proteins that might be in HIV, or might be in any one of thousands of other viruses, bacteria or substances known to man. The tests do NOT test for the HIV virus. There IS NO SUCH test.

CassTete July 27, 2010, 16:31 quote
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i believe the german scientist had a excellent case when he simply quoted a study by a anglo/french scientist fgroup that gave half patience placebo's and half antivirals and the antiviral patience had a 25% higher mortality ..... STOP .... THATS IT no need to test anymore . It's a big scam by Pharmaindustrie to make trillions on the rubbish they sell . Anyone who really cares about this should read up on Antoine Priore and his electromagnetic healing machine from the 60's which was buried because the french military created a weapon out of his invention . Antoine Priore cured 100% cancer in all animals he treated and humans as well and was endorsed by the world health organisation , Military , French Prime minister , Nobel Prize holders and numerous scientists and doctors worldwide . FACT : we are being scammed in Energy ( Nikola Tesla created a electric car without batteries 80 years ago) FACT : we are being scammed for Medicine Antoine Priore and others have built Electromagnetic healing machines in the past that work ( also Nikola Tesla made a Tesla Coil for medical purposes this was the basis of the following inventions in this field ) FACT : your car can use far less petrol and reduce emissions by 80% just check out the ecopra kit or the GEET engine .

J Todd DeShong August 02, 2010, 01:55 quote
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Liam Scheff is completely confused, or perhaps intentionally misquoting the Padian Study. This study was a behavioral study in which the couples were strongly counseled on condom usage and safe sex practices. As Dr. Padian herself states: http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/misuse/padian "Anyone who takes the trouble to read and understand the paper should appreciate that it reports on a study of behavioural interventions such as those mentioned above: Specifically, discordant couples were strongly counseled to use condoms and practice safe sex (1,12). That we witnessed no HIV transmissions after the intervention documents the success of the interventions in preventing the sexual transmission of HIV. The sentence in the Abstract reflects this success – nothing more, nothing less." However, that is ONE study only. How about this information: (2) Downs AM, De Vincenzi I. Probability of heterosexual transmission of HIV: relationship to the number of unprotected sexual contacts. European Study Group in Heterosexual Transmission of HIV. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol. 1996 Apr 1;11(4):388-95. (3)Wiley JA, Herschhkorn SJ, Padian NS. Heterogeneity in the probability of HIV transmission per sexual contact: the case of male-to-female transmission in penile-vaginal intercourse. Stat Med 1989;8:93-102. "HIV is unquestionably transmitted through heterosexual intercourse. Indeed, heterosexual intercourse is now responsible for 70-80% of all HIV transmissions worldwide (2). The current likelihood of male to female infection after a single exposure to HIV is 0.01-0.32% (2, 3), and the current likelihood of female to male infection after a single exposure is 0.01-0.1% (2)." RT.com needs to practice a bit more "Fair and Balanced" Journalism! JTD

Snout August 11, 2010, 07:05 quote
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Liam Scheff claims that Professor Padian's paper Heterosexual Transmission of HIV in Northern California: Results from a Ten-year Study has been "censored". So "censored", in fact, that anyone who can't be bothered going to a medical library to read it can download it for free from the publisher's website: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/146/4/350 @Andy: "Where is the HIV ? Ive never seen it ! Ive asked to see it , to see the proof they say HIV exists , every virologist , every consultant physician , the CDC , FDA , my GP , BHIVA , not one of these so called specialists has answered my request." Did you try typing "HIV electron micrograph" into a Google images search?

Bru Raczin September 15, 2010, 05:41 quote
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Suppose Darryl Dawkins was correct in his book "The Selfish Gene" ? and the gene represents the "intelligent" life force on Earth. Then this would make HIV the ultimate life force since it has achieved immortality. I guess mankind has achieved immortality also...through death.

Rssb Data October 12, 2010, 14:33 quote
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AIDS is a designer virus created under a US military contract given to Tulane University. It was created by a modification of a Simian virus - most likely SV40 - using a particle beam device. The research director was Mary Sherman. Antidotes and a vaccine to protect the "importasnt" people was manufactured at the same time. The original use was to depopulate Africa so US corporations could move in and steal the natural resources there.

Andy Lindsay February 13, 2012, 06:22 quote
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@ Snout.  " Did you try typing "HIV electron micrograph" into a Google images search?    You will here a man saying "probably".  Well im probably the pope !    Apart from that , Popovic and Montaigner clearly stated in journals that they did NOT purify that PROBABLE particle.  Go figure Snouty boy.  The game is up the pole for you lot.   :-)

 

Cheryl , my regards to you and Steve and a big hug to Lindsay,  22 yrs old now i believe after quitting the drugs that nearly destroyed her life as a 4 year old.   

 

 

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